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Sunday, July 15, 2012

The Voter ID Scam


The Lonely Conservative blog, which mainly focuses on spinning reality, still wants to pretend that there's a voter fraud problem because someone sells bulk names to voter registration groups. The moderator chose not to allow my post as it pretty much destroys their nonsense.


Liberal Group Sends Voter Registrations to Dogs, Cats, Kids and Non-Citizens

A liberal group has taken it upon itself to send out millions of voter registration forms to people they think should sign up to vote. But they aren’t just sending them to American adults, they’re going out to dogs, cats, children and non-citizens.
But residents and election administrators around the country also have reported a series of bizarre and questionable mailings addressed to animals, dead people, noncitizens and people already registered to vote.
Brenda Charlston wasn’t the only person to get documents for her pet: A Virginia man said similar documents arrived for his dead dog, Mozart, while a woman in the state got forms for her cat, Scampers. …
Several election officials said they believed the voter registration systems were secure enough to catch people who might improperly submit the misdirected documents, since registrants typically have to furnish ID and election managers use databases – such as death records – to see if someone should be disallowed.
But administrators in New Mexico, a potential swing state in the presidential race, warned that ineligible voters who complete the documents could make it onto the rolls.
New Mexico is one of two states in which noncitizens can qualify for a driver’s license by simply proving residency – not necessarily legal residency – and state elections officials have no way of verifying the legal status of those who file registration documents.
Ken Ortiz, the chief of staff at the New Mexico secretary of state’s office, said some noncitizens have contacted the state asking why they received the forms when they’d previously been told that they could not vote.
“We fear that some of these individuals who receive this mailing may feel that they are being encouraged to vote by our office or county government,” Ortiz said. …(Read More)



4 Responses to Liberal Group Sends Voter Registrations to Dogs, Cats, Kids and Non-Citizens
just a conservative girl on July 14, 2012 at 2:47 pm
I have a friend who is moving to Florida to work on the Romney campaign. We had a going away party for her last night. The restaurant we were in allowed Planned Parenthood to come a do a voter registration. We decided we needed to have a little talk with them.
In my state all you have to do is sign something and you are registered. I am not sure what type of check they do.
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Ronald J. Ward on July 15, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Your comment is awaiting moderation.You don’t mention the state you’re from but Mozart’s from Virgina. It takes something more than “signing something” in Virgina and the following is why this is a specious argument that has no validity in promoting the voter ID scam. It’s just another example of how voter suppression advocates turn a non story into some plague of voter fraud.
Granted, a voter registration group buys bulk mailing lists and sends them out accordingly. And by that definition, it somehow means that “In Virginia, dead dogs are potential voters? No, it does not. Not even close. Let’s look at this with the assumption that Mozart isn’t instantly detected as a dog.
In Virginia, Mozart the dog nor Kermit the frog can vote simply because someone mailed them an invite and said it’s okay. Mozart would still have to use a DMV’s driver’s license/ID card application to indicate he/she would like to apply to register to vote or change voter information. If Mo’s a citizen of the United States and wishes to apply to register to vote, the dog would answer the citizenship and voter registration questions on the application with “Yes” and then be provided with a voter registration application to complete. Following the instructions on the voter registration application carefully, Mo would then complete all boxes and provide complete information on the voter registration application and then sign and date the voter registration application.
Mo may also use the driver’s license/ID card application to change the mutt’s voter registration name or address. Or, Mo may use the separate driver’s license/ID card address change request form. That’s a pretty tall order for Mo, be him/her dead or alive. But Mo’s not done yet.
Mo’s not registered to vote until his/her voter registration application is approved by the local voter registrar. If approved, Mo should receive, within 30 days, a voter registration card showing the voting location and election district.
Even prior to the voter ID law changes, had Mo showed up without an ID, the dog would have had to sign an affidavit swearing to be a registered voter. You see, dogs, cats, and dead people can’t do that.
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This is another example of how blogs will distort the truth in order to make a cheap sale to those not educated on how the registration system works. There is no voter fraud problem.
The Voter ID laws were likely the GOP scam of the year as they have absolutely nothing in the world to do with fraud but rather to suppress Democratic voters.
Dorothy Cooper, 96 of Chattanooga, after voting since she was 18, is denied voting next year because of a technicality. Virginia Lasater, 91 cannot stand in the long DMV lines so for the 1st time in her adult life, won’t be able to vote. Thelma Mitchell, 93, even after a 30 year career of cleaning the TN state capital building, is unable to vote because the midwife in 1918 never registered her for a birth certificate.
Under Wisconsin law (and others are similar or as asinine), you need a photo ID to get a birth certificate. The only catch is that the birth certificate requires a photo ID. Usually, this can be resolved with a $20 or higher fee which is in reality, an unconstitutional poll tax. And for those willing to pay, many can’t endure the long DMV lines.
So one would think that when these problems are identified, they’d be tweaked or adjusted. But in WI for example, Gov Scott pushed to close 16 DMVs in Democratic leaning precincts while actually opening several in Republican precincts.
The Associated Press reported that South Carolina’s voter I.D. law “appears to be hitting black precincts in the state the hardest.” Wesley Donehue, a political strategist for the South Carolina Senate Republican Caucus that actually championed the law’s passage, Twittered that the AP report “proves EXACTLY why we need Voter ID in SC.”, a sheer admission that it had nothing to do with voter fraud but rather about suppressing votes of blacks, other minorities, the poor, the elderly, and people that as a rule, vote for Democrats. With voter fraud convictions being at .0002%, anyone of reasonable knowledge of the issue understands that this was all about voter disenfranchisement and had nothing to do with voter fraud.
But this issue really isn’t arguable as any way you slice it, the fact are indisputable and speak for themselves. It’s purely intended to disenfranchise voters and nothing else. Th following questions come from language or rules implemented in state so called voter fraud ID bills.
1) Why was there an all out push to have such a controversial fight to solve a nonexistent problem? (.0002% voter fraud or you’re 39 times more likely to be struck by lightning)
2) Why have most states refused to work with Universities in order to except student IDs? However, in Texas, a concealed weapons permit (applies to more Republicans) is acceptable where a university ID is not.
3) Why would Governors, after learning that Democratic area DMVs were bottle necked with applicants, intentionally close said DMVs yet open more in GOP precincts?
4) Why the barriers for registration. The GOP seems to follow a playbook state to state discouraging drives such as Rock the Vote and the League of Women Voters with huge fines and/or imprisonment for minute and irrelevant glitches or failure to turn in a registration within 48 hours?
5) Why have states, after researching that many of the poor, elderly, and college students often wait until closer to voting date to register, eliminate same day registration or move registration deadlines further from the voting date?
6) Why wouldn’t states do something to correct the problem that many can’t get a photo ID without a birth certificate but they can’t get a birth certificate without a photo ID?
7) Why have several states prohibited ex-felons(which again, seldom vote for GOP) of nonviolent or less severe crimes from voting?
At the end of the day, everything validates the intention to suppress the Democratic voters. And all the GOP can do is cry “voter fraud” which is non existent. Even many legislators such as State Sen. Chuck McIlhinney (R-PA) has openly admitted that there’s no evidence of fraud yet like others, he was pushing it anyway.
And just recently, House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R-PA) that the House’s intention on Voter ID was for political gain, even admitting; “We are focused on making sure that we meet our obligations that we’ve talked about for years, Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation – abortion facility regulations – in 22 years, done. Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”

Any way you slice it, the ID laws are likely the GOP scam of the year.


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